IGT Election 11/5/24 Harris vs Trump

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Post by MFS62 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:32 pm

Oh, yeah. And by the way, The Ukraine is fucked.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:39 am

Don't worry. She wouldn't stay in the Senate long. He'll name her to the Cabinet - Secretary of Animal Rescue? Later
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:00 pm I think you have Lake mixed up with SD Governor, Kristi Noem, who underwent a full facial metamorphosis -- plastic surgery, facial reconstruction, Hollywood white veneers, nose job, Botox and either a wig or hair extensions. Noem doesn't look like herself anymore.
I guess all that puppy target practice paid off.
Noem's being named Homeland Security Secretary.

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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:08 pm

I can't read all of these post-mortems. Just can't.

Encouraging people to "Vote for change" is maddening. Could there be anything more meaningless?
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Post by rchurch314 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:21 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:08 pm I can't read all of these post-mortems. Just can't.

Encouraging people to "Vote for change" is maddening. Could there be anything more meaningless?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:14 pm

In these very polarized times, the majority of counties in America always vote for the same party in a Presidential election. That is, a county is likely to always vote for the same party it voted for in the previous Presidential election, and the one before that, etc.

But two counties have given the majority of their Presidential votes to the winner in every election since 2000. One of those two counties is Blaine County, Montana. The other county is in New York State. Can you guess which NY county that is?
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:35 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:14 pm In these very polarized times, the majority of counties in America always vote for the same party in a Presidential election. That is, a county is likely to always vote for the same party it voted for in the previous Presidential election, and the one before that, etc.

But two counties have given the majority of their Presidential votes to the winner in every election since 2000. One of those two counties is Blaine County, Montana. The other county is in New York State. Can you guess which NY county that is?
Richmond (Staten Island?
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Re: IGT Election 11/5/24 Harris vs Trump

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:42 pm

MFS62 wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:35 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:14 pm In these very polarized times, the majority of counties in America always vote for the same party in a Presidential election. That is, a county is likely to always vote for the same party it voted for in the previous Presidential election, and the one before that, etc.

But two counties have given the majority of their Presidential votes to the winner in every election since 2000. One of those two counties is Blaine County, Montana. The other county is in New York State. Can you guess which NY county that is?
Richmond (Staten Island?
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You think Staten Island voted for Biden in 2020?
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Post by Centerfield » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:43 pm

Dearborn Michigan and surrounding areas went for Trump. The heavily Arab and Muslim community seems to have some regret over their voting choices.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... uslim.html
The mood in Dearborn, Alawieh said, is a complex mix of disbelief and wary curiosity. “Trump came to Dearborn and made a lot of promises,” he said, adding that residents he has spoken to are wondering what Trump will do for Palestinians. Alawieh thinks the reality is obvious. “It’s clear as day that he’s playing us,” he said. “I think he’s going to target us. That’s what he’s going to do. He’s going to target our families, and it’s going to hurt. So, I think we’re about to find out.”
I feel for them, as this community was dealt two very unappealing choices. But still, anyone paying even the littlest bit of attention should have seen what the better option was.

This nugget also got my attention.
“This election season has fractured us,” Elabed said. “It feels like it’s only aiding our opposition.” She is connected with Arab Americans in her community who supported Trump, drawn by the anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric of his party. “Some people supported him regardless of Gaza,” she said, but she believes they were still winnable. “I’m willing to do the work to build a Working Families Party within the Democratic Party, one that can support candidates like Rashida and other true progressives.”
"So on the one hand, he's called us terrorists, called for our deportation and banned Muslims during his first term. On the other hand, he shares our bigotry toward the gay community, so, you know, tough choice."
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:56 pm

Centerfield wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:43 pm Dearborn Michigan and surrounding areas went for Trump. The heavily Arab and Muslim community seems to have some regret over their voting choices.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... uslim.html
The mood in Dearborn, Alawieh said, is a complex mix of disbelief and wary curiosity. “Trump came to Dearborn and made a lot of promises,” he said, adding that residents he has spoken to are wondering what Trump will do for Palestinians. Alawieh thinks the reality is obvious. “It’s clear as day that he’s playing us,” he said. “I think he’s going to target us. That’s what he’s going to do. He’s going to target our families, and it’s going to hurt. So, I think we’re about to find out.”
I feel for them, as this community was dealt two very unappealing choices. But still, anyone paying even the littlest bit of attention should have seen what the better option was.

This nugget also got my attention.
“This election season has fractured us,” Elabed said. “It feels like it’s only aiding our opposition.” She is connected with Arab Americans in her community who supported Trump, drawn by the anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric of his party. “Some people supported him regardless of Gaza,” she said, but she believes they were still winnable. “I’m willing to do the work to build a Working Families Party within the Democratic Party, one that can support candidates like Rashida and other true progressives.”
"So on the one hand, he's called us terrorists, called for our deportation and banned Muslims during his first term. On the other hand, he shares our bigotry toward the gay community, so, you know, tough choice."
Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em where it hurts. They deserve what they're gonna get. They're lucky they live in a Dem controlled state. Or it's gonna be 10x worse for them. I'm sick of reading how the Dems blew it. It's the morons of this country that are gonna drag everybody down with 'em. At least NY state has a stronger economy than most states. It can use its vast financial resources to fend off some of the harm that will surely come when the madman withholds Federal funding. And its blue state policies will resist the shitstorm that's about to come to a greater extent than red states. Heck, red states will cooperate. The fucking Oklahomans and Alabamans and West Virginian hillbillies that voted for this debacle are the ones that are really gonna suffer. Fuck 'em.
A truly great nation does not elect Donald Trump to be its president, and it certainly doesn’t elect him again after experiencing his first four years in office. A truly great nation does not allow itself to be stampeded by shadows on the wall, rustling in the bushes, or arrant bullshit on the television. My God, children are not being hustled into the nurse’s office in elementary schools to have gender-affirmation surgery in time to get back to fourth-period English. A truly great nation doesn’t listen to a politician repeatedly dealing in this fourth-rate horror story and decide, hmm, this fellow has interesting thoughts and I would like to put him in an incredibly powerful position with thousands of nuclear weapons at his disposal.

A truly great nation would not allow delusional crackpot MAGA cult members anywhere near the levers of power. I mean, seriously, Kash Patel? Ric Grenell? Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? A truly great nation does not take back rights enjoyed by 51 percent of the population for a half century unless that nation has decided that it doesn’t want the burden of being truly great anymore. It is a fairly heavy lift, I will grant you. That’s why we tried so hard to pretend to be a truly great nation for so long. Now a half-mad, vengeful, vulgar talking yam has come along again to tell us to lay that burden of national pretense aside and let him sell it to authoritarians of many lands while putting some coin into his own pocket and walk whistling away from the destruction he brought with him.
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:10 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:14 pm In these very polarized times, the majority of counties in America always vote for the same party in a Presidential election. That is, a county is likely to always vote for the same party it voted for in the previous Presidential election, and the one before that, etc.

But two counties have given the majority of their Presidential votes to the winner in every election since 2000. One of those two counties is Blaine County, Montana. The other county is in New York State. Can you guess which NY county that is?
It's Nassau, naturally.

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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:21 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:10 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:14 pm In these very polarized times, the majority of counties in America always vote for the same party in a Presidential election. That is, a county is likely to always vote for the same party it voted for in the previous Presidential election, and the one before that, etc.

But two counties have given the majority of their Presidential votes to the winner in every election since 2000. One of those two counties is Blaine County, Montana. The other county is in New York State. Can you guess which NY county that is?
It's Nassau, naturally.

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Nassau went for Biden in 2016.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:28 pm

SO, Erie County?
What's the answer?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:03 pm

MFS62 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:42 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:40 am The icing on this shitcake will be if the GOP flips the Arizona US Senate seat and super-scumbag Kari Lake wins there.
Don't worry. She wouldn't stay in the Senate long. He'll name her to the Cabinet - Secretary of Animal Rescue?
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:00 pm
I think you have Lake mixed up with SD Governor, Kristi Noem....
MFS62 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:05 pm You're fight. I can't keep those loonies straight.
Noem is crazy.
Lake is just nutz.
Kristi Noem’s 5 Most Bats**t Moments Ranked
You know her as The Puppy Killer… but there’s so, so much more.
Now, she’s back, and soon-to-be bigger than ever. And if, perchance, you’d forgotten the staggeringly vast array of truly bats--t moments the South Dakota governor has treated us to over the years, never fear–we got you covered.


#5. Yeah, but can I put my gun in it?

An understated perk of gubernatorial living, to be sure, using wildly underpaid prison labor to not only bag yourself a $9,000 hand-carved black walnut wood desk, but also then pushing for a massive discount after you’ve insisted on adding a mad assortment of features like brass embossing, a state map and gun holder to the finished product.

Noem commissioned the desk from Pheasantland Industries, the inmate workshop at South Dakota State Penitentiary, back in April 2021. The revisions to the design and the discount are thought to have imposed a loss to the workshop of around $3,000, with reports that some inmates’ 50¢ work hours were reclassified to “training time” as a result.

As Democratic State Senator Troy Heinhert put it at the time, it’s “troubling that the governor needs a $9,000 desk when quite a few South Dakotans don’t have a $9,000 car.”

#4. Get in loser, we’re going shopping

You could fill a book (well, two autobiographies, to be exact) on Noem’s antics as an anti-lockdown crusader during the COVID-19 crisis, from refusing to impose mask requirements and backing superspreader music and motorcycle events to hitching a jet ride with a splutteringly infected Ted Nugent and claiming “science says we can’t stop the virus from spreading.”

Her finest pandemic blunder, however, arguably came on the day in 2020 when her state set a new record for coronavirus deaths, which she marked with a tweet literally pleading with people to defy all medical advice and go out shopping.


#3. Send in the National Guard!

Remember when GOP-led states sent hundreds of National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border to defend the nation against an “invasion” of impoverished and vulnerable migrants? Yeah, that happened, with Noem behind it all the way.

In fact, from 2021 through to May of this year, the governor is reported to have spent a total of $2.7 million from South Dakota’s Emergency and Disaster Fund on sending not one, not two, but three deployments to help Texas “secure” the border.

Oh, but dipping into that money to support flood-ravaged areas earlier this summer? Nah, a use of state funds for their mandated purpose would simply not be “necessary”, bearing in mind just how “extremely expensive” (Noem’s words, not ours) National Guard deployments really can be.


#2. FIREWORKS, BABY

Given her historic courtship with the National Rifle Association, it’s no secret Noem likes things that go boom (again, RIP Cricket, RIP Goat).

Little surprise then that she’s repeatedly worked herself up into a flap over the ban on holding Independence Day firework displays over Mount Rushmore. At this point we must point out that Noem once commissioned a replica of the iconic sculpture adding Trump’s face right next to Abraham Lincoln, which she gifted to the once and future president.



But back to the fireworks, which are, in fact, banned due to the considerable risk of sparking wildfires, to mention nothing of longstanding opposition from multiple local Native American Tribes for their “adverse effect on the traditional cultural landscape.”
Mount Rushmore sculpture featuring Trump

Which leads us neatly to perhaps her finest accomplishment in public office.

#1. Don’t ask ‘háu’

As of May 2024, Kristi Noem has reportedly been banned from all tribal lands in South Dakota. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that means she’s prohibited from entering literally 20 percent of the state where she currently serves as governor.

Relations with South Dakota’s Native American population have been strained since she took up her gubernatorial post in 2019, but the straw that broke this particular camel’s back would appear to have been her outlandish (and unsubstantiated) claims that local tribe members have been hard at work in partnership with cartels to flood the U.S. with drugs and weapons.
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:53 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:21 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:10 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:14 pm In these very polarized times, the majority of counties in America always vote for the same party in a Presidential election. That is, a county is likely to always vote for the same party it voted for in the previous Presidential election, and the one before that, etc.

But two counties have given the majority of their Presidential votes to the winner in every election since 2000. One of those two counties is Blaine County, Montana. The other county is in New York State. Can you guess which NY county that is?
It's Nassau, naturally.

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Nassau went for Biden in 2016.
Looks like I completely misread the question too.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:37 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:53 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:21 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:10 pm

It's Nassau, naturally.

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Nassau went for Biden in 2016.
Looks like I completely misread the question too.
I'll take some of that blame. I wrote the question kinda' clunky.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:40 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:37 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:53 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:21 pm
Nassau went for Biden in 2016.
Looks like I completely misread the question too.
I'll take some of that blame. I wrote the question kinda' clunky.
Here's a cleaner and leaner version:

Two American counties voted for the winner in every single Presidential election since 2000. One of those two counties is in New York State. Name it.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:14 am

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Post by Lefty Specialist » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:25 am

Fman99 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:44 am I realized something pretty profound, at least to me personally, in the aftermath of this election.

I have a job where I am at a computer that's online all day and while my work is challenging and time consuming, it does also afford me plenty of opportunities to read the news (or do word puzzles, or post to Mets message boards) during business hours. I excel at multi tasking and no one gives me any grief about my extracurriculars while I'm getting everything done.

But in the last eight years, really, I've spent WAY too much time reading the news, and placing too much importance and effort to keep up, and seeking out left leaning news sources whenever possible, in order to find reassuring things to read and things that would keep me hopeful and optimistic that America might be less stupid than they were in 2016.

Well you can see how that turned out.

So now I'm in detox mode. I will read my daily NY Times email news brief, so as to remain informed of what's going on, but I'm not going to dwell on the news cycle any more. It didn't do me any good, nor will continuing this past for the next four years do me anything but more harm to my mental state.

Same thing with social media. No more X (wildly pro-Trump and disgusting) and no more Threads (wildly pro-Kamala and depressing AF). I'm not getting anything positive out of it personally so I am discarding them from my life.

I'll do what I've been doing, instead, that works best for me. I'll keep my head down, and do my job, and pursue my hobbies and interests, take care of my body and my mind and spirit, and live my life. If you want to accuse me of being a white male and basking in my own privilege, or putting my head in the sand to the injustices of our nation current and future, you go ahead and throw that down. I don't have a strong counter argument to it except to say that it's being done in the name of self-care.
This is me to a tee. Since the election I completely disconnected from social media (including this place). I just can't bear the relentless sadness and touchdown dancing.

I feel like I'm in a remake of Casablanca and Major Strasser is the hero. We were in Hawaii for the election and while it was nice, it didn't soften the blow that much. I don't really want to dissect what happened to Kamala. I was obviously confident going in that Americans wouldn't vote for a despicable person but they did. We'll soon be in the 'Find Out' part of FAFO. My biggest concern is for Lefty Jr, who works for the government and will soon be targeted by the crack asshole 'efficiency expert' team of Ramaswamy and Musk. As for me I just keep my head down and put one foot in front of the other.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:48 pm

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:14 am Suffolk
Nope. Essex County, NY has voted for the winner of every Presidential election, going back to 2000.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:46 pm

An article in Tuesday's NYT talks about how it was less about Trump gaining voters as much as it was a sizable number of democrats simply staying home. That seems stunning to me but maybe it serves as a wake up call to the donkey side that they're not even running candidates that their voters like a whole lot much less ones tempting enough to draw off independents or never-Trumpers from the other side.
Those sitting out apparently cut across all demographics, incomes, races, etc.

In Cook County, for instance, Trump got almost the identical number of votes he got in 2020 but Harris received more than 400,000 fewer compared to Biden.
It was still enough for her to win the county of course but it gave her a much smaller margin when trying to overcome the inevitable rural deficits.
Similar tales involving the five largest Pennsylvania counties.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:18 pm

.....and the GOP retains control of the House, thus pulling off the political trifecta this election.

218-208 in favor of the GOP with nine races still too close to call. So far, the GOP has flipped seven seats, while the Dems have flipped six seats, resulting in a net gain of one seat for the GOP, for now.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... se-results
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