Who was the worst Mets GM?

[TheNextMetsManager]

What do you do when your veteran name-brand closer gets hurt and your team collapses down the stretch?

If you are Omar, you try to go out and get two name-brand closers for the next season.

I look at a lot of the Mets in first decade or so of the 21st century as putting too much focus on trying to solve last years problem.

At least they tried something. Current iteration just shrugged and went 75-87 instead.

[ashie62]

Joe McDonald here

I know his hands were tied but no one else has something even close to "midnight massacre" attached to their

I thought Eppler was unusually clueless. I thought he was filling a spot in advance of Stearns

I thought Minaya was largely pretty. I have to admit I don't really understand the consequence of what happened with Adam Rubin

Scott was a DUI guy without the conviction. That bothers me

The used to call Bill Virdon "style master" I could apply that to Brodie

[Edgy MD]

What do you do when your veteran name-brand closer gets hurt and your team collapses down the stretch?

If you are Omar, you try to go out and get two name-brand closers for the next season.

I look at a lot of the Mets in first decade or so of the 21st century as putting too much focus on trying to solve last years problem.

At least they tried something. Current iteration just shrugged and went 75-87 instead.

And the team that doubled-down went 70-92. It's tough out there.

See, I don't think the two choices are shrugging or doubling down on solving what looks like one of the previous year's problems.

If you do the systemic work, there's always someone to step in when a guy gets hurt. It may not be enough — it usually isn't — but over-investing in one area can be downing a poison pill for years to come, quite possibly to avert the wrong crisis. Joe Smith went on to pitch (and pitch well) for 14 or 15 more years. Jason Vargas had 94 career wins ahead of him at the time of that deal.

[Lefty Specialist]

We need a choice of 'All of the above'.

Boy, there have been a lot of dipshits running this team.

[Edgy MD]

Well, for some, it was hard to make a full judgment on the time and mandate they had.

It's easy to wonder how deeply Sandy Alderson was able to engage after the cancer fight.

[Centerfield]

Yeah. I think that kinda the point of this thread. Look at the idiots we've had as GM of this team. It's a wonder we ever won.

Earlier this year David Stearns was asked if he was looking to fill the GM role. His answer was something like "not really. I'm good with the leadership we have in place."

I don't blame him.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, and frankly, I don't see what a GM would do, other then run out to pick up David Stearns' lunch orders.

[MFS62]

Yeah, and frankly, I don't see what a GM would do, other then run out to pick up David Stearns' lunch orders.

Where do I apply?
Later

[Lefty Specialist]

Yeah, and frankly, I don't see what a GM would do, other then run out to pick up David Stearns' lunch orders.

George Costanza knows where you can get a good calzone.

[G-Fafif]

Jared Porter emerges to explain his shadow.

"It was an inappropriate relationship for a lot of reasons,” Porter said while appearing on the podcast “Baseball Isn’t Boring.”

“I put myself in that situation,” he continued. “I made the decision to send the text message that I sent. And I certainly shouldn’t have done it.”

Porter sent the texts to a journalist in 2016, when he worked for the Chicago Cubs. According to ESPN’s initial report, after a brief exchange, the texts from Porter included lewd and explicit photos even as they went unanswered for weeks. In total, Porter sent 62 messages between answers over three weeks before the journalist requested him to stop. She ultimately left journalism, in part because of the harassment.

After he was fired, Porter said he went to an inpatient center in a behavioral healthcare facility in Arizona called The Meadows for a week. He then transferred to an outpatient center and went there five days a week for eight weeks. He said he lacked awareness and didn’t have boundaries. Porter said, “It took a major incident like this to kind of wake me up.” Porter said that he still sees a therapist and has attended mental wellness retreat centers with his wife.

Porter’s tenure with the Mets lasted just 37 days. With so much business conducted over video calls due to the COVID-19 pandemic at the time, Porter said he never saw his office at Citi Field or even met Mets owner Steve Cohen in person.

“They had to make the best decision for the New York Mets when the article came out, and I knew they would,” Porter said. “I hold zero ill will toward them whatsoever. I do think they made the best decision for the Mets. It’s unfortunate that I put myself and put them in that situation.”

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/595571 ... -comments/

[Edgy MD]

I guess the Grant/McDonald regime is the easiest answer.

I don't really have a feel for how Porter or Scott did their jobs or could have done them given some time, but I wasn't particularly keen on either firing. Both were guilty of indiscretions that seemed like more of a suspension offense.

[Gwreck]

Both were guilty of indiscretions that seemed like more of a suspension offense.

Strong disagreement here. Porter’s firing was absolutely necessary. The Mets shouidn’t have someone who’s engaged in that conduct (and he admitted to it; it wasn’t just an allegation) in the GM role.

[Edgy MD]

Of course he admitted it. I certainly wouldn't suggest it didn't happen.

[Gwreck]

Scott was acquitted of the DWI charge, hence the distinction. If you were arguing that Scott’s conduct required only a suspension and not a firing, I disagree—but not in the same way as I do regarding Porter.

[rchurch314]

Scott was acquitted of the DWI charge, hence the distinction. If you were arguing that Scott’s conduct required only a suspension and not a firing, I disagree—but not in the same way as I do regarding Porter.

no one's doubting that he did, actually, DWI though. (And back from Cohen's house party) He just properly played the system. (Always refuse a breathalyzer) He was also interim and there was really no reason not to move on anyway.