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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 pm

We went antiquing last Saturday. Not looking for anything, and pretty broke even if I found something. But it was an excuse for a day in the country. Since we lost our second dog this year, the third and final one has been all clingy, so we took her. Shit, we take her everywhere.

She's 14 1/2 pounds. We brought our wagon, because we didn't want to leave her in the car, and sometimes, establishments that are iffy about letting a dog in will reconsider when they see her riding in her wagon.

So I wagoned her about for a while, looking at tchotkes — lunchboxes, LPs, baseball books, furnishings. While Ms. Edgy is in the lady's room, an employee of the store says that it's OK to let the pooch out of the wagon, that they've always allowed dogs there.

So I dismount the dog, keep her on the leash, and look at jackets — blazers that are retro, cool, and would fit a fat guy. Ms. Edgy returns and takes the dog's leash, and we go off in separate directions. Our anniversary approaches and I guess we were implicitly agreeing to split up, in case we saw something the other might like. I, for instance, like vintage Dukes of Hazzard shit (Confederate-flag-free, of course).

I walk to the far corner and am working my way back when I hear a dog squeal — repeatedly. My dog has never made a noise like that — ever — but by the third squeal, I realize that it maybe could be her. I sprint in the direction of the sound, and I see my wife on the floor, curled up around the dog arms and legs like Greg Buttle recovering a fumble. (It's been a while since I've seen a football game.) A pitbull mix is trying to get past her turtle shell of a back to get at my little doggie, while Charlene turns her back to stay between them. The crazed mutt wants my dog, not my wife, and fortunately doesn't take a piece out of the latter.

The owners have wrestled the dog off by the time I arrive. I have fifteen messages going through my head to kick somebody's ass — anybody's. But I put that aside, because even though our dog is in the clear for the moment, she's still squealing. When she stops four or five squeals later, you could hear the whole mall relax. But not completely, because they weren't sure if that meant my dog was alright, or dead.

Thankfully she wasn't dead. The other dog (the aggressor) belonged to one of the dealers — a couple — and as the woman is scolding her dog, the man is apologizing profusely to me. I elect to not kick his ass, because I'm worried about Rocket. But I don't really want to talk to him until I am calm — and my wife is calm, which may take days, possibly weeks. Fortunately, the operators of the mall come over and tell the dealers to get their dog out of there. The lady leads him out, scolding him, playing the part of a vigilant, stern dog-mom, when in fact, this shit is her fault. This dog was unleashed.

As she heads, out, the dog-daddie hands me his business card and says to call if they need to cover any vet expenses. I'm feeling better about him as I'm feeling worse about his wife. We examine the dog. She initially seems unmarked, but we start combing through her fur and find a piece of flesh missing on her flank, about a quarter inch wide, but it doesn't look deep. We ask the proprietors for Neosporin, and of all people, the doggie-daddy, not quite out of voice range, says, "I have some in the truck, I'll go get it."

I'm appreciating this guy just a little bit more, all the while wondering if this tends to happen a lot.

We get home in a hurry, we shave down the spot around the wound and disinfect it with everything we've got. When we've finished shaving, we notice two more tooth impressions near the wound. But we understand that bite wounds should be left open, so any bacteria can drain out.

So that's us, we spend the week cleaning and disinfecting. The dog is alright, but we're not into seeing this open wound. I call the guy's place of business on Sunday, and he doesn't get back to me by the end of the Monday. Monday night I call his cellphone. No reply by mid-day Tuesday. So I call her cellphone. Tuesday night she calls back, and while she's kinda owning responsibility for this, she's kinda not. She's saying her dog has never attacked a little dog — only big dogs. We conclude that she's fucked up and crazy, and we don't mention $$, because that promise came from her husband and we're getting the idea she has him oppressed and that's why she insisted that she do the talking with us.

Wednesday night, the dog is doing OK, but the wound won't scab over, partly due to the dog messing with it, but still. More drainage. We call the vet and she has a cancellation for this morning, so we bring her in. Vet says we've done everything right, but — and this is a big ol' but — she manipulates the skin around the wound, and when she slides the dog's flesh back a bit, there's a big fucking hole. That fucking dog got a tooth at least a half inch into our little Rocket.

She says we can keep observing and see if there's any sign of infection or she can go in and clean and close it up now. That's the smarter play to our estimation, and we're going in for surgery tomorrow. There's a chance she's had her abdominal wall punctured, and that could lead to sepsis. But there will be a much bigger wound in our dog after surgery, and anesthesia is always a fright. My wife, as you might guess, is beside herself. In a state, as the Brits say.

So, these folks are about to get a big old vet bill, along with some ugly pictures of what they did to my little girl. And I'm going to collect. I'm out of work, so I have time to chase folks down.

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Post by 41Forever » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:23 pm

That is HORRIBLE. Sorry to hear about this Edgy. Those are scary photos. Hope Rocket — and Mrs Edgy — recover.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:24 pm

Damn
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Post by Fman99 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:48 pm

That's awful. I hate pit bulls. I'm not a dog person to begin with, true, but I particularly dislike big, loud, angry animals.

We have a cat. He's 17. He never goes outside, except in a cat stroller (yes, my wife bought one, and he loves going for rides around the block). Being purely an indoor cat has made pet care infinitely less complicated for us. No incidents, no animal confrontations, no drama, no punctures.

I wish lil' Rocket some fast healing.
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Post by LWFS » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:57 pm

Ain't nothing wrong with pit bulls, as a class.

But that hole? That's brutal. Best wishes to the hairy litl'un.
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Post by kcmets » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:32 am

Wow, surviving a puncture wound like that is a miracle.
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:31 am

LWFS wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:57 pm Ain't nothing wrong with pit bulls, as a class.
No, but unethical breeding and irresponsible ownership have created a real crisis. 85% of the dogs at my local shelter are pitties and pit mixes.
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Post by seawolf17 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:46 am

HOLY SHIT. This is crazy.
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:56 pm

I hate pit bulls. One of them scared the crap out of my son when he was 6 when he got too close to someone's fence. The owner said, "Oh he's really gentle, he didn't mean it." But secretly I could tell he was proud of his boy for scaring away a potential robber.

Get every penny of your costs from them. There's no need to own dogs that are bred to be vicious.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:58 pm

Irresponsible pet owners suck.
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Post by kcmets » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:21 pm

I don't get the whole pit bull thing any more than I get why people smoke crack.
Most of the strangers I meet walking with a mean looking/behaving pit bull look
like they wish they were pit bulls. Does that make any sense?

A good friend of ours has a female pit bull and she's affectionate as a lamb. We
were at a cookout there a couple of weeks ago and they have a large yard and
she's free to pretty much do whatever she wants. And she does, she's strong as
a baby bull. We had another friend many years ago who had a male who was just
a fucking bully. And you can't do nothing because it can KILL YOU at will. It's just
the temperament and nature of some of them through breeding and training that's
just frightening. Conversely, our 90 lb setter can be a bully too. Coyotes in the woods
are afraid of him which is good because I'm afraid of coyote. He's very strong too but
if he gets out of hand sometimes and needs to be wrassled with and pinned he'll look
up at me and say uncle. A pit bull will fight back, kick your ass and win. Bloody nuts.
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Well, according to the vet, our baby pulled through ok...apparently ready to socialize right after surgery. We get to pick her up this afternoon.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:25 pm

kcmets wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:21 pm I don't get the whole pit bull thing any more than I get why people smoke crack.
Most of the strangers I meet walking with a mean looking/behaving pit bull look
like they wish they were pit bulls. Does that make any sense?
Sure. People think owning a macho-looking/acting dog somehow makes them more macho.
See also: car, muscle.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:39 pm

And now, as if on cue, comes an article in today's NYT concerning a case in Hauppauge L.I. where the owner of a dog that was attacked by a pit bull, like Edgy's wife, jumped into the fray to protect his dog.
But in this case the owner is being charged with a crime on account of choking the pit bull to death in the ensuing scrum.
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:40 pm

Don't give me ideas.

Here she is, post-surgery, lying in the crook of my arm, watching the Mets get their asses kicked.

One of two of her drains is showing. It looks like she's been impaled.

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Post by nymr83 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:56 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:39 pm And now, as if on cue, comes an article in today's NYT concerning a case in Hauppauge L.I. where the owner of a dog that was attacked by a pit bull, like Edgy's wife, jumped into the fray to protect his dog.
But in this case the owner is being charged with a crime on account of choking the pit bull to death in the ensuing scrum.
That is utter bullshit, dog attacks you and you SHOULD kill it
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:05 pm

Well it attacked the man's dog not him, but yeah.
And, not surprisingly, there are differing versions to the story.
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Post by Double Switch » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Just a small thought, also hoping Rocket fully recovers and is not traumatized for the rest of her life, as well as your wife (bless her heart and yours), my thought is no one needs a pit bull or any other weaponized animal or personal arsenal in the supposedly civilized 21st century. Further, both things - potentially vicious animals and vicious weapons - should be left at home where they won't harm the unsuspecting and truly innocent people trying to have a nice day.

It is a truly shameful attitude held by these intrinsically terrified people (who rely on vicious dogs and guns) that convinces them to do the opposite of the Golden Rule (remember that one, geezers?) - Their version is "do unto others before they do it unto you." They believe they are in danger based on pretty much zero evidence. They are paranoid and insist on spreading their disease.

Where is the equivalent of the NRA for all the other amendments? Only the 2nd matters, apparently. And, to those pit bull apologists who insist their "pibbles" are "sweeeet," there are many more actually sweet animals to keep as pets that are not time bombs set to detonate at a random moment.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:10 pm

The thing is that the system is in place, but completely unenforced. Who ever gets flagged for an unlicensed pet or unlicensed breeding operation?

Regulation. It wasn't always a dirty word.
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Post by nymr83 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:52 am

there is nothing inherently wrong with pit bulls, like any animal proper training is required - they just happen to be more dangerous when that is not there. the idea of banning them is absurd.

the ASPCA agrees:

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-po ... -pit-bulls
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Post by Edgy MD » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:55 pm

I don't think anybody's used the word "ban."
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Post by whippoorwill » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:51 pm

Oh poor little Rocket!!
I hope she’s doing better!
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:01 pm

nymr83 wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:52 am there is nothing inherently wrong with pit bulls, like any animal proper training is required - they just happen to be more dangerous when that is not there. the idea of banning them is absurd.

the ASPCA agrees:

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-po ... -pit-bulls
I disagree. Pit bulls kill, on average, one person every other week. That's not even accounting for non fatal attacks and maimings. I think most of those fatalities are small children family members from households where the dogs are treated humanely. Pit bulls aren't the most aggressive dogs out there, but when you factor in their lethality, they're the most dangerous. I think they should be banned for the same reasons people aren't allowed to own tigers. I just dont know how you would enforce a ban. Even if you grandfather in existing pit bulls, how would you control for breeding and new pit bull births? They're just too fucking dangerous. I dont see how society benefits. This isnt like the automobile where you cant ban it no matter how many asshole and irresponsible drivers are out there because everyone benefits from the auto, even non drivers. Society would cease to exist without the automobile. What's the pit bull argument?
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Post by Edgy MD » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:15 pm

Yeah, a ban would be unenforceable. But a licensing system would not.
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:31 pm

Two weeks out of surgery, lying next to me on the bed. Stitches probably coming out tomorrow. The bite hole — which we had to keep open, especially after she pulled her drain out — has narrowed and scabbed over, which means no more draining on my stuff.

The dog owners, after ghosting me for a week, were about to hear from our lawyer when I gave them one last chance, writing a "I'd really appreciate if you could acknowledge the information I've sent" e-mail. A day and a half later, they sent back a churlish response of "Check is in the mail." No salutation or signoff. No definite or indefinite article at the start of their only sentence.

I'm sure that "Check is in the mail" meant, "I'm gonna drop a check in the mail," because it was four days before the thing arrived, with no note or anything. I'm waiting a few days to make sure it clears before letting them know the case is closed. We didn't even bother billing them for the followup visits or first-aid supplies, which we probably should've but now we just want to wash our hands of.

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