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Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Benjamin Grimm Jul 03 2021 07:55 AM

Sources: Mets considering third base upgrades, including Josh Donaldson This seems unlikely, but I remember saying the same thing about Robinson Cano.

Edgy MD Jul 03 2021 08:09 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

I think third is where the Mets should be looking certainly.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 03 2021 08:17 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

I agree. Third base and starting pitching.

bmfc1 Jul 03 2021 08:19 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Is he an assh*le or do I have that perception because he was on ATL? He recently called out Lucas Giolito for using sticky stuff on the mound.

Centerfield Jul 03 2021 08:22 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

With that contract they better be taking back Robinson Cano.

Edgy MD Jul 03 2021 08:45 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Another prime July trade candidate who plays the hot corner is Kris Bryant, and he has no two additional years to carry.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 03 2021 08:54 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

We've needed Donaldson for several years it seems but we always wound up with Todd Frazier instead

MFS62 Jul 03 2021 09:44 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Donaldson is the Andrew McCutchen of the infield. When the Mets have needed help in the outfield the past few years, Andrew's name has popped up. Infield help needed? Donaldson's reportedly been in their sights. I'd like to get him. Later

Lefty Specialist Jul 03 2021 10:14 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Well, they need to do something to snap them out of this offensive funk. If that's Donaldson for a few months, I'll just hope he can keep his assholeism to himself for a bit.

Frayed Knot Jul 03 2021 10:18 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Donaldson is occasionally loud and brash and not shy about expressing opinions. Don't think that alone makes him an asshole although it probably doesn't exclude it either.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2021 10:58 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

=MFS62 post_id=70027 time=1625327069 user_id=60] Donaldson is the Andrew McCutchen of the infield. When the Mets have needed help in the outfield the past few years, Andrew's name has popped up. Infield help needed? Donaldson's reportedly been in their sights. I'd like to get him.

Donaldson was in the Mets sights? Or maybe this forum's sights? Like the Wilpons were ever gonna pay what it would've taken to sign Donaldson as a FA.

I'll tell you what the Wilpons would have done if they sensed that Mets fans wanted Donaldson: after he signed elsewhere , they'dve said that he could've been had and that all that Sandy or BVW had to do was ask for permission to go and sign him for whatever money was needed and that money was no object.

MFS62 Jul 03 2021 12:01 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=70033 time=1625331534 user_id=68] =MFS62 post_id=70027 time=1625327069 user_id=60] Donaldson is the Andrew McCutchen of the infield. When the Mets have needed help in the outfield the past few years, Andrew's name has popped up. Infield help needed? Donaldson's reportedly been in their sights. I'd like to get him.

Donaldson was in the Mets sights? Or maybe this forum's sights? Like the Wilpons were ever gonna pay what it would've taken to sign Donaldson as a FA.

I'll tell you what the Wilpons would have done if they sensed that Mets fans wanted Donaldson: after he signed elsewhere , they'dve said that he could've been had and that all that Sandy or BVW had to do was ask for permission to go and sign him for whatever money was needed and that money was no object.

No. He was in reporter (newspaper and internet) rumor-mill sights. Of course, the writers didn't have to pay him. But , logically, he was a good fit for the team.

Later

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2021 12:19 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Donaldson is the Andrew McCutchen of the infield. When the Mets have needed help in the outfield the past few years, Andrew's name has popped up. Infield help needed? Donaldson's reportedly been in their sights. I'd like to get him. Donaldson was in the Mets sights? Or maybe this forum's sights? Like the Wilpons were ever gonna pay what it would've taken to sign Donaldson as a FA. I'll tell you what the Wilpons would have done if they sensed that Mets fans wanted Donaldson: after he signed elsewhere , they'dve said that he could've been had and that all that Sandy or BVW had to do was ask for permission to go and sign him for whatever money was needed and that money was no object. No. He was in reporter (newspaper and internet) rumor-mill sights. Of course, the writers didn't have to pay him. But , logically, he was a good fit for the team. Later Oh. Because you wrote that "Donaldson's reportedly been in their sights". And that "When the Mets have needed help....". So when you wrote "reportedly", you were saying that reporters were reporting that reporters wanted the Mets to sign Donaldson? [FIMG=15]https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/smiley-face-happy-smiley-emoji-vector-yellow-smiley-face-happy-smiley-emoji-vector-yellow-vector-happy-circle-face-160815464.jpg [/FIMG] And that's what you meant by in "their sights"? Why would that even be noteworthy? Reporters'll make a case for every available body.

smg58 Jul 03 2021 12:38 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

The Wilpons could have gotten him for a year when the Braves did, but even that was too much to ask for. His glove is not better than average at this point and his OPS is more low-.800s than low-.900s like in his prime, but that still makes him a valuable player. It's fair to ask if he's valuable enough to take on two more years with a salary above $20M, but I think you have to at least kick the tires.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2021 12:47 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

=smg58 post_id=70051 time=1625337526 user_id=62] The Wilpons could have gotten him for a year when the Braves did, but even that was too much to ask for. His glove is not better than average at this point and his OPS is more low-.800s than low-.900s like in his prime, but that still makes him a valuable player. It's fair to ask if he's valuable enough to take on two more years with a salary above $20M, but I think you have to at least kick the tires.

I'm not so sure that Donaldson was in the Wilpons' budget. What I definitely do remember is disagreeing with you about how Donaldson might have projected in that upcoming season. You were way more optimistic than I was. And you were right. You won that one.

smg58 Jul 03 2021 06:22 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

His performance since his 2015-16 peek can be described as "better than most people think." His 130 OPS+ puts him in the same offensive category as Arenado, so his present ability to hit should not be in question. The catch is that he will be 36 in December and still has two fairly expensive years, so the Mets need to ask if they can make a comparable upgrade with less commitment of resources. I think a lot will depend on how JD Davis looks once he gets activated.

Edgy MD Jul 03 2021 07:47 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Kris Bryant: No years. Eduardo Escobar: No years and playing for last-place team. José Ramirez: No years and playing for a second-place team, but one that may fade enough by the end of the month. My guess is that they'll get somebody who's more of a consistent hitter than an outstanding hitter, who can play a bunch of positions. Or two guys like that, the lesser of whom will be Asdrubal Cabrera. Depth moves.

seawolf17 Jul 04 2021 06:00 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Donaldson can flat out hit, and he'd be a perfect fit for us.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2021 07:01 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1411666703910637572[/TWEET] "Tight hammy". From last night: https://www.mlb.com/news/josh-donaldson-exits-with-right-hamstring-tightness?game_pk=633439

seawolf17 Jul 04 2021 07:50 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

See, he's already hurt! Perfect fit.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2021 02:53 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Mets looking for a third baseman? I know of a third baseman who's got 10 HR's in 300 AB's through the ASG break and is OPSplussing 114. It's this guy. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [FIMG=333]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BlCXPP5oL._AC_SL1118_.jpg[/FIMG]

Edgy MD Jul 14 2021 03:10 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

I don't know what the Mets' needs actually are — or at least what they'll be the last two months of the season. I can picture them falling apart and I can picture them tearing away from the division (although the Nats are probably the biggest real threat). Third base could be a real strength for them going forward. So if they really want to muscle up, the best move may be indeed to get a versatile guy like Kelly Johnson. Or Lowrie. Only not Lowrie. But I always want to stand pat.

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 22 2021 04:00 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

I will be scouting Donaldson and other potential Twins trade targets in person tomorrow night.

Fman99 Jul 22 2021 08:15 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

Lowrie would break both his hips going up the ramp at Citi Field. You can't convince me otherwise.

TransMonk Jul 23 2021 06:51 AM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=72262 time=1626991206 user_id=119] I will be scouting Donaldson and other potential Twins trade targets in person tomorrow night.

I saw the Twins in Chicago on Wednesday. The Twins won 7-2 and Donaldson had a two-out RBI hit.



I was also impressed by Michael Pineda. Not sure of his contract situation, but he looked good as a SP.

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 23 2021 01:15 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

=TransMonk post_id=72278 time=1627044667 user_id=71] =Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=72262 time=1626991206 user_id=119] I will be scouting Donaldson and other potential Twins trade targets in person tomorrow night.

I saw the Twins in Chicago on Wednesday. The Twins won 7-2 and Donaldson had a two-out RBI hit.



I was also impressed by Michael Pineda. Not sure of his contract situation, but he looked good as a SP.


We just did the stadium tour, and it's a really nice park.

Willets Point Jul 23 2021 02:15 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

I associate Michael Pineda with a Yankees cheater.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2021 03:13 PM Re: Let's talk about Josh Donaldson

I always liked that his name referenced his infraction.