Go Get Juan Soto

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Post by metsmarathon » Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:38 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:39 pm
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:36 pm Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of that. The manager doesn't need to be in the loop on these negotiations, but that doesn't mean he isn't. It really depends on what internal relationship he has with Stearns and Cohen.
Exactly.
well, if he has been in the loop up until now, i suspect he no longer is.
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Post by Centerfield » Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:31 pm

It's such a strange negotiation. With the opt out, or I'd imagine, multiple opt-outs, it's tough to know how much the back end of that contract even matters. Let's say you give him 15 years. In all likelihood, that will moot when he opts out in 3,4,5 years, and if for some reason he's injured at his first opt out, he might use his second one later on.

I would guess that in addition to the dollars and years, there needs to be time to work out the specifics. How much is the signing bonus, etc. I would guess a team willing to front load the contract (meaning the years before the opt out) would have a significant advantage.

That can be where the Mets have an advantage. Front load the contract, tack on years to the back end bringing down the luxury tax, knowing that Soto will opt out in 3-5 years anyway.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:21 pm

Both Mets & Yanx (and maybe others) have offers in the $710 to $730 range [Jon Hey, Man - NY Post]


The Yankees and Mets both remain heavily involved in the five-team Juan Soto Derby, with both clubs recently upping offers into the $710 million-$730 million range — MLB record territory — as it’s believed the sweepstakes could be within a day or two of an historic conclusion.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/07/sports/ya ... 0-million/
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Post by metirish » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:43 pm

Absolute madness , but hope we get it done
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:58 pm

I can't imagine that he's in any hurry to wrap things up if five teams are still in active pursuit.
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Post by ashie62 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:27 pm

I fear the Mets are bidding against themselves

Not surprised if the Yankees win this
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:03 pm

Can't believe the Blue Jays are hanging around at these levels.
The answer to the question "Can people really be that stupid?" is always "Yes."
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:16 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:03 pm Can't believe the Blue Jays are hanging around at these levels.
Why? They're one of baseball 's very wealthiest organizations. The Jays' owner is almost as wealthy as Steve Cohen.
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Post by Gwreck » Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:19 pm

Centerfield wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 pmWhatever it takes. Make him an offer he can’t refuse.
Done.
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Post by Cowtipper » Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:20 pm

Soto = got.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:58 am

So, any new developments overnight?
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Post by Centerfield » Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:07 pm

Gwreck wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:19 pm
Centerfield wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:32 pmWhatever it takes. Make him an offer he can’t refuse.
Done.
I like can't believe it.
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Post by Edgy MD » Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:43 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:21 am Here's a dumb headline in my Google News feed, from something called Marca.com:
Do the Mets give up on Juan Soto after acquiring Jose Siri from the Rays?
And no, I'm not going to click on the article to see what the answer is.
So, stunningly, there was room for both!
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Re: Go Get Juan Soto

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Post by Centerfield » Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:12 pm

So in the end, all that stuff about the Yankees having an advantage was false. The Yankees just need to get close, blah blah blah.

The Yankees bid far more than I ever thought they would. And if you told me from the beginning that the Yankees would offer $760M, I would have said he's taking it.

I guess in the end he really didn't want to be there.
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Post by Edgy MD » Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:16 pm

And if the Yankees did bid $760 million, then the reports of the Mets being committed to go $5 million over the next-highest offer seems to have support.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:38 pm

I think some of the rumors said they'd go $50 million over the best offer.

Among other reasons to be glad about this, I'm happy that my Google news feed will no longer have articles about Juan Soto predictions. But there will still be a lot of other crap.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:53 pm

How sour are those grapes?

And perhaps there are some within the Yankees organization that feel a weight off their shoulders, knowing they aren’t locked into such a massive financial commitment to one player and can now try to spread money around to improve a roster that, including Soto, fell to the Dodgers in the World Series.

“I would think there are a lot of people in their room who are like, ‘We dodged a bullet. I’m glad we didn’t do this,'” Post baseball columnist Joel Sherman said on the “Pinstripe Post” live show Sunday night after the 26-year-old Soto agreed to the deal with the Mets.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/sports/wh ... -for-mets/
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Re: Go Get Juan Soto

Post by Centerfield » Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:58 pm

"Spread the money around".

If you take the money that the Yanks bid on Soto ($47.5 AAV), you can get like Corbin Burnes and Michael Conforto.
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