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MFS62 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:55 pm And The NY Attorney General is trying to stop him from relocating assets to Florida:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna52084

The sleaze never stops.

Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:50 pm The Supreme Court unnecessarily took the 'immunity' case....

The carefully cultivated Supreme Court majority justified its cultivation, and Mitch McConnell's lasting infestation of American self-government, late Wednesday. From the Washington Post:

Trump’s pretrial proceedings in D.C. will remain on hold until a ruling is issued, putting the Supreme Court in the politically fraught position of influencing the timing of a federal election-obstruction trial for the leading Republican presidential candidate. The brief unsigned order issued Wednesday said the justices were not “expressing a view on the merits” of the case and would consider only the question of whether and to what extent a former president has "immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office.

Yes, and Bush v. Gore was decided on the basis of arcane 14th amendment considerations.

This is awful. These SOBs just cheated the American people out of an opportunity to know all the facts in electing the next president. They just cleared the runway for El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago to run out the clock. Hell, they're not even going to hear oral arguments until April 22. They likely will then spend a couple of months "considering" a legal argument that should've been laughed out onto the sidewalk in the first 10 minutes. I genuinely can't decide if this decision is more corrupt or more cowardly. It could be a consequence of the carefully cultivated conservative majority's careful cultivation. Or it could be the Court getting weak in the knees in the face of a challenge to the entire constitutional structure. I'd almost prefer that it were the former. It's simpler and more easily understood.

Trump asked the Supreme Court to put the appeals court ruling on pause and give him time to seek rehearing by a full complement of D.C. Circuit judges. His lawyers argued that he should not be sidelined from the campaign trail by a months-long criminal trial, and said voters have the right to hear from Trump on the stump.

And that justifies an expansion of the executive's power to simply ignore criminal law throughout a president's term? This is something that would have made the Founders gag; after all, several of them had just fought a revolution against unaccountable executive power. And the recent history of the presidency, especially misbegotten Republican presidencies, has made clear how destructive — and how final — the success of this heresy would be.

At least four of the nine justices must agree to take up any case. Legal experts have said there was good reason to think at least four would do so for Trump’s immunity appeal; he is the first former president to be charged with a crime, and the justices may want to have the last word on such a significant issue as whether he is shielded from prosecution.

Well, that's one way to put it. I'd prefer "Soulless Or Gutless," but I am not a Justice of the United States Supreme Court, carefully cultivated so as to bloom on days like this.

TransMonk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:02 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:02 pm

TransMonk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:02 pm

I guess your response has been rendered meaningless, or unintelligible by the red-light bully, who once, again, red-lit one of my posts, for reasons that I have no idea what they are. And the reasons that I suspect were used to justify this latest red-lighting make no sense, either. Perhaps he can explain. And explain on the public forum so everyone can see. And then others can weigh in if they think the red-lighting is ridiculous, or non-sensical, or thoroughly inconsistent with the way other people's posts are treated.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:33 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:50 pm The Supreme Court unnecessarily took the 'immunity' case....

What a disgrace. Hoping the Dems find the votes and the balls to pack or expand (same thing, whatever you wanna call it) the court.

MFS62 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:10 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:33 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:50 pm The Supreme Court unnecessarily took the 'immunity' case....

What a disgrace. Hoping the Dems find the votes and the balls to pack or expand (same thing, whatever you wanna call it) the court.

There's always The Pelican Brief option.

Later

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:18 pm

MFS62 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:10 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:33 pm
What a disgrace. Hoping the Dems find the votes and the balls to pack or expand (same thing, whatever you wanna call it) the court.

There's always The Pelican Brief option.
Later

Don't know that one. Never read the book or saw the movie. Is that some kind of option, that if passionately advocated for, could bring Secret Service scrutiny upon this forum? If so, I ain't touching that one with a 20 foot pole.

MFS62 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:54 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:18 pm

MFS62 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:10 pm
There's always The Pelican Brief option.
Later

Don't know that one. Never read the book or saw the movie. Is that some kind of option, that if passionately advocated for, could bring Secret Service scrutiny upon this forum? If so, I ain't touching that one with a 20 foot pole.

Let's just say that when we're talking about the preservation of democracy, all options must be explored - even Machiavellian / Draconian ones.
But for now, just call it a book recommendation, and hope it is one of the books that hasn't been burned by your local school board.
BTW-my wife suggested it.
Later

This weekend, Trump showed more evidence of his accelerating dementia. Trump named the wrong month for the primary, said that Putin would rather see Biden as president and he agreed with him, and that he made Israel the capital of Israel. But most important are the fundamental breakdowns in his ability to use language. Once you become aware of a symptom, you start to notice it, whereas before you might have overlooked it..

Trump manifested a number of phonemic paraphasias. He was trying to say evangelist, for example, but haltingly said "evangelish.” He was trying to say “three years later," but said, “three years, lady, lady, lady.” Trying to spit out the word “lately,” he sounded like a car with a bad battery struggling to turn over. When Trump can't find a word his whole demeanor changes. It’s almost like someone pulled the metaphorical plug. Trump looks blank, stops in mid-sentence (or mid-word), his jaw goes a little slack, and when he starts to talk again, he slurs, speaks haltingly, and often looks confused. Trying to get the word out, he shifts to a non-word that is easier to pronounce. When people are losing their ability to use language they use non-words, They start with the stem of the real word, and then they improvise from there.

Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:29 am

MFS62 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:54 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:18 pm

Don't know that one. Never read the book or saw the movie. Is that some kind of option, that if passionately advocated for, could bring Secret Service scrutiny upon this forum? If so, I ain't touching that one with a 20 foot pole.

Let's just say that when we're talking about the preservation of democracy, all options must be explored - even Machiavellian / Draconian ones.
But for now, just call it a book recommendation, and hope it is one of the books that hasn't been burned by your local school board.
BTW-my wife suggested it.
Later

And the movie has Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington! What more could you want?

The former president must either pay the sum out of his own pocket or post a bond to stave off the state's seizure while he appeals Justice Arthur Engoron's Feb. 16 judgment against him for misstating property values to dupe lenders and insurers.

Seller is highly motivated and will include all of the candidate's family members, his impressive portfolio of 90+ criminal indictments and a $50 gift certificate for his Mar-a-Lago resort gift shop.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm What is "A large and golfing talented membership"?