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by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:18 pm
Edgy MD wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:17 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:35 pm
So Ohtani can't win the MVP award if he wins the Hank Aaron award? Is that what the guy is saying?
Definitely not.
So what is he saying? Because if Ohtani is denied the MVP award simply and solely because he won the Hank Aaron award and for no other reason, well that's a denial in my book*.
*Technically speaking, if Ohtani doesn't win the MVP for any reason, that's a denial. But whatever. Because like I already said, I have no idea what that Beaneater is getting at. What the hell does the existence of other awards have anything to do with whether or not Ohtani should win the MVP award?
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by smg58 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:23 pm
metirish wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:47 pm
Big words
Going by Fangraphs WAR, here are the best years by some Mets position players (at least the ones that I thought of looking up):
Wright 2007 8.4
Olerud 1998 8.1
Beltran 2006 7.8
Gilkey 1996 7.6
Lindor 2024 7.3 (so far)
Johnson 1989 7.0
Strawberry 1990 6.5
Reyes 2008 5.9
Piazza 2000 5.8
Hernandez 1986 5.8
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by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:24 pm
Edgy MD wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:17 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:35 pm
So Ohtani can't win the MVP award if he wins the Hank Aaron award? Is that what the guy is saying?
Definitely not.
batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:35 pm
Or maybe he's saying that a DH can't win an MVP award?
Quite the opposite.
Never mind.
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by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:32 pm
I didn't take a really hard look at Lindor's numbers in about two weeks. Wow! His numbers moved up greatly in that time. He has a really strong case for NL MVP if the season ended today. Maybe even the best case of anybody. Even better than Ohtani. In fact, I'd say that right now, Lindor is the front-runner for NL MVP.
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by Edgy MD » Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:51 pm
After being on the Interstate for most of the first third of the season, there's a chance Lindor ends up in the league's top 10 in batting average. He's about 16th right now, and while it'll take some real climbing over the final weeks of the season, he's been climbing and climbing and climbing all summer.
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by Frayed Knot » Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:03 pm
He has cracked the top 10 in OPS, and two of those ahead of him (Betts & Peterson) don't have enough PAs to qualify right now.
Still more than 100 points in back of Ozuna and Ohtani though.
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by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:41 pm
Fangraphs has him ahead of Ohtani in fWAR, 7.4 to 7.0.
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by Edgy MD » Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:41 pm
The Mets looked awful tight in the one game that they did get in against the Braves. Nimmo let a ball skip by him. Álvarez ran into his pitcher on a dribbler, Alonso let a ball get away from him, and Acuña flubbed a grounder that was ticketed for a double-play. They looked gosh-darn tight and made me think their un-named captain is a big part of keeping them loose.
Also, I kind of got the impression, during this rare interlude when Lindor hasn't been in the lineup, their alternative de-facto captain isn't Nimmo or Alonso or Marte. Things have kind of been revolving Iglesias, haven''t they? It's weird to see it that way, seeing as he wasn't even being a Met at the start of the year, but sometimes culture swings fast that way.
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by batmagadanleadoff » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:49 am
Edgy MD wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:41 pm
Fangraphs has him ahead of Ohtani in fWAR, 7.4 to 7.0.
Things change. It's gonna take a fucking miracle now for Lindor to take home this year's NL MVP award what with Ohtani's blazing and historical finish and Lindor's injury-related fade-out.
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by G-Fafif » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:43 pm
Francisco Lindor is a man possessed by the desire to win.
Hope for the best. Expect the Mets.
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by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:53 pm
He's not going to be the MVP.
The fans should be chanting "Schaefer Mets Player of the Year!"
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by G-Fafif » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:07 pm
Francisco Lindor has won NL Silver Slugger at shortstop and was named a “finalist” for NL MVP, which is to say we already know he’ll finish in the Top Three of voting.
Hope for the best. Expect the Mets.
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by Fman99 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:24 am
G-Fafif wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:07 pm
Francisco Lindor has won NL Silver Slugger at shortstop and was named a “finalist” for NL MVP, which is to say we already know he’ll finish in the Top Three of voting.
Another trend I find maddeningly stupid. Stop releasing "finalists" for these awards like they are the Oscars. There's so much masturbatory baseball content and they could be airing Arizona Fall League games on TV instead.
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by G-Fafif » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:41 am
Two-hour show that could’ve been an e-mail.
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by Johnny Lunchbucket » Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:03 am
Mentioned before but all of the awards, one night, no leaking of candidates, combined with AFL all-star and skills competition, and the Venezuelan vs Dominican Winter League All-Star Classic, and a Live Rule 5 Draft, and presentation of the luxury tax checks, at the Winter Meetings, only now they've been renamed the Winter Baseball Equinox & Dealmaking Expo 24.
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by G-Fafif » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:59 pm
Lindor finishes strong 2nd in NL MVP voting. A DH finished 1st.
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by Edgy MD » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:48 pm
Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:03 am
Mentioned before but all of the awards, one night, no leaking of candidates, combined with AFL all-star and skills competition, and the Venezuelan vs Dominican Winter League All-Star Classic, and a Live Rule 5 Draft, and presentation of the luxury tax checks, at the Winter Meetings, only now they've been renamed the Winter Baseball Equinox & Dealmaking Expo 24.
I'm all about this, but you've got to announce nominees before dramatically announcing awards at banquets, in order to get candidates to show up.
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by smg58 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:59 am
It wouldn't have been unanimous if I had a vote. But I may be biased.