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Post by CitiFieldPornRoom » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:28 am

Frayed Knot wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:11 am I don't remember the source of the article (which may have said "widely believed" rather than widely accepted) but it was from earlier this year and was in connection with Soto's pending FA-gency saying essentially that what the signing team doesn't want to experience is what happened with the Angels and Pujols where it is now widely believe/accepted within the game that Albert was then several years older than his listed age.

There's no hint or allegations I know of that this is the case with Soto (which I already stated) and it would be harder to do in this era (which I also said) but let's also not pretend that it's never happened before: El Duque, Rey Ordonez, Raffy Furcal, Adrian Beltre, others. The Yanx wound up taking legal action of some young foreign players who fudged their ages but only against the ones who turned out to not be as good as the team thought they were going to be because to take no action was to admit that they mis-judged their talent. They let things slide on the good players.

I was merely pointing out, in the wake of overnight news, that what one doesn't want to occur following the long-term signing of the uber-FA is either a succession of injuries which rob the player of what he once was [see Griffey, Ken Jr., the Cincinnati years] or a questionable age discrepancy [Pujols, Albert: the Disney era].
"there's no hint or allegation I know of" then bringing it up is essentially making one. And again, unfounded believes or accusations about Pujols are certainly not precedent. Soto was also born in the capital where presumably records are better kept. Of course, the incentives are there to lie, but if there's fault, it's with the Washington Nationals, not Soto. The way to go with this line of reasoning is all the extremely exploitive and sketchy stuff teams are getting up to. The Nats essentially swooped in and grabbed Soto at 16. So sure, maybe the Nationals are like "pretend you're 16 already we'll make it work" but it seems extremely unlikely especially as there were other teams also looking to sign him. Meaning he was vetted by multiple people and there was probably incentives by the other clubs to find a reason to say he was 15 and nullify the Nats pick.

Speaking of sketchy international drafting and the Mets, enter Roki Sasaki. Whoever signs Sasaki is likely going to reneg on 'commitments' to other international free agents.
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Re: Soto a Met

Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:49 pm

CitiFieldPornRoom wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:28 am "there's no hint or allegation I know of" then bringing it up is essentially making one.
No. It. Isn't.

My original comments were a bit of gallows humor.
Great that we've got him signed ... so as long as he doesn't break both legs skiing or turn out to be already 30 then things should be great.

So if you want to continue parsing this further, have at it. But I'm done here.
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Re: Soto a Met

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:21 pm

So anyway...

When is the physical? It seems that Cohen has been openly acknowledging the deal, which you typically don't see until the physical has been completed.
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Post by metirish » Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:03 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:21 pm So anyway...

When is the physical? It seems that Cohen has been openly acknowledging the deal, which you typically don't see until the physical has been completed.

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Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:21 pm So anyway...

When is the physical? It seems that Cohen has been openly acknowledging the deal, which you typically don't see until the physical has been completed.
he's got a habit of bragging and then reneging on his deals, but I don't think there's any real issue here.
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Re: Soto a Met

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:37 am

Bob Nightengale (USA Today) wrote:The New York Mets have tentatively scheduled a press conference Thursday afternoon at 3 pm at Citi Field to introduce their new $765 million man: Juan Soto.
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Post by G-Fafif » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:39 pm

Heyman reports Juan Soto has passed his physical
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Post by G-Fafif » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:16 pm

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Post by G-Fafif » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:19 pm

Official release:
METS SIGN FOUR-TIME ALL-STAR JUAN SOTO

FLUSHING, N.Y., December 11, 2024 – The New York Mets today announced that the club has signed outfielder Juan Soto to a 15-year major league contract with a club option and contingent player opt-out after the 2029 season.

“This is a seminal moment in franchise history,” Mets Owners Steve and Alex Cohen said. “Juan Soto is a generational talent. He is not only bringing staggering historical statistics with him but also a championship pedigree. Our Amazin’ fan base is very excited to welcome Juan to Queens. Congratulations, Juan.”

“Today’s signing further solidifies our organizational commitment to consistent championship competitiveness,” said Mets President of Baseball Operations, David Stearns. “Not only does Juan provide historic levels of on field production, but his joy, intensity, and passion for the game mirror our budding culture. We are thrilled to add him to our team and look forward to watching his excellence for years to come.”

Over a seven-year major league career with the New York Yankees, San Diego Padres and Washington Nationals, Soto has posted a .285/.421/.532 slashline with 655 runs, 179 doubles, 15 triples, 201 home runs, 592 RBI, 57 steals and a 36.4 career bWAR in 936 games. He has won the Silver Slugger Award five times (2020-24), finished in the top 10 in MVP voting five times (2019-21, 2023-24) and won the National League batting title after batting .351 (54-154) in 2020. In addition, the four-time All-Star (2021-24) was the winner of the 2022 Home Run Derby.

Since he made his major league debut on May 15, 2018, Soto leads the major leagues in walks (769), times on base (1,719) and on-base percentage (.421), and ranks fourth in OPS (.953), sixth in RBI (592) and seventh in both SLG (.532) and home runs (201).

The native of the Dominican Republic has led MLB in free passes three times in his career 2023 - (132), 2022 (135) and 2021 (145). He became the first player to lead the major leagues in three straight seasons since Barry Bonds did so in four straight seasons from 2001-04. Soto has recorded at least 100 walks in five of his six 162-game seasons (2019, 2021-24). He joins Babe Ruth (10), Barry Bonds (10), Ted Williams (eight), Eddie Yost (seven) and Eddie Stanky (four) as one of six players in major league history to record at least 125 walks in four different seasons.

In 157 games with the Yankees last season, the outfielder batted .288/.419/.569 with 128 runs, 31 doubles, four triples, 41 home runs, 109 RBI and 129 walks. He ranked second in the majors in OBP (.419), walks (129) and runs (128), third in OPS (.989), fourth in SLG (.569) and home runs (41), sixth in bWAR (7.9), tied for sixth in RBI (109) and ninth in total bases (328). He set career highs in runs, hits (166), home runs, total bases and extra-base hits (76), all while finishing third in AL MVP voting.

The left-handed hitter has played 35 games at Citi Field and hit .333 (39-117) with 29 runs, six doubles, one triple, 12 homers, 26 RBI, 28 walks with a .466 OBP, a .709 SLG and a 1.175 OPS. On August 12, 2020, as a member of the Nationals, Soto belted the longest home run of his career at Citi Field, traveling 466 feet. That ranks as the fourth-longest home run at Citi Field in the Statcast era (since 2015).

The 26-year-old has appeared in 43 Postseason games and owns a .281/.389/.538 slashline with 31 runs, eight doubles, 11 home runs, 30 RBI, two steals with a .927 OPS. He was a member of the 2019 World Series Champion Washington Nationals, batting .333 (9-27) with six runs, two doubles, three home runs and seven RBI in the Fall Classic. In 2024, Soto played in 14 Postseason games, batting .327 (16-49) with 12 runs, three doubles, four home runs, nine RBI, 14 walks with a 1.101 OPS.

Originally signed as a non-drafted free agent by the Nationals on July 2, 2015, Soto made his major league debut with Washington at the age of 19 in 2018. He went on to hit .292/.406/.517 with 25 doubles, one triple, 22 home runs, 70 RBI and a .923 OPS to finish second in the National League Rookie of the Year ballot.
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Post by metirish » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:31 pm

Heyman reports he will wear #22
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:43 pm

I'm going to start a Go Fund Me to help him buy out all of the unsold BATY 22 jerseys.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:46 pm

Francisco Lindor wrote:"I did my homework, and all the stuff I heard about [Soto] was fantastic. He’s a hard worker, someone that cares about his craft, someone that cares about his winning, someone that cares about his family, someone that cares about his teammates and somebody that wants to continue to get better. That’s the Mets. It sounds like the Mets. It sounds like the culture I wanted to build, be a part of. I think he’s the right man for the job.”
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Post by metirish » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:28 am

I wonder how the Suite thing works , probably most of these are yearly corporate leases so it's easy to give him one? Like I hope some rich guy didn't have his suite taken from him
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:57 am

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:36 am If I'm Baty I hold this motherfucker up for millions.
I was thinking about this just now and then a sudden thought: Did Baty even have a say in this? He's not on the 26 man roster so I think he has no rights to the number, I'm kinda certain now. Anybody know for sure?
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Post by Fman99 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:11 am

This is like the A-Rod deal that I truly believed we were going to get in 2001, only we didn't because the pre-Cohen Mets were the Lol Mets
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:12 am

Technically you are assigned a number when you're added to the 40. It sounds like they gave Soto 22 in the co tract so the team will buy out Baty if necessary
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Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:31 am

I thought having a uniform number as part of your contract was a bit odd, but then I remember that Gary Carter was all gung ho about keeping his #8 during the negotiations for him to approve the trade that he insisted it go in the contract. Frank Cashen said later that when Carter kept talking about keeping #8 he thought he was referring to clause #8 in his existing contract and Cashen wondered what was in that clause that Gary was so hung up on. He was relieved when he realized it was just about the uni number.


Supposedly the suite thing was something that the Yanx refused to concede to Soto and it may have wound up being the tipping point in favor of him choosing the Mets.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:32 am

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:12 am Technically you are assigned a number when you're added to the 40. It sounds like they gave Soto 22 in the co tract so the team will buy out Baty if necessary
Sounds Iike Baty does have a say. So what if he sez "No"? lol.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:39 am

Frayed Knot wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:31 am I thought having a uniform number as part of your contract was a bit odd, but then I remember that Gary Carter was all gung ho about keeping his #8 during the negotiations for him to approve the trade that he insisted it go in the contract. Frank Cashen said later that when Carter kept talking about keeping #8 he thought he was referring to clause #8 in his existing contract and Cashen wondered what was in that clause that Gary was so hung up on. He was relieved when he realized it was just about the uni number.


Supposedly the suite thing was something that the Yanx refused to concede to Soto and it may have wound up being the tipping point in favor of him choosing the Mets.
It's looking like Carter had it written into his contract that he could keep #8 till the end of mankind.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:40 am

metirish wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:28 am I wonder how the Suite thing works , probably most of these are yearly corporate leases so it's easy to give him one? Like I hope some rich guy didn't have his suite taken from him
I hope some poor guy didn't have his suite taken away from him.
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Post by MFS62 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:48 am

"When the cat's away, the mice will play"
I hope this isn't an all day celebration/event.
Stearns shouldn't spend too much time at the press conference instead of talking to other free agents.

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Re: Soto a Met

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:53 am

I think he probably knows how to manage his time.
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Post by metirish » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:29 am

MFS62 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:48 am "When the cat's away, the mice will play"
I hope this isn't an all day celebration/event.
Stearns shouldn't spend too much time at the press conference instead of talking to other free agents.

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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:36 am

I'm surprised Stearns even got Soto, him being an American League player
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Re: Soto a Met

Post by metirish » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:09 am

Bill has been around for years , probably an old George guy, he's been miserable since Soto signed
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